Weird Studies/The Thing

22 Dec 2023 - 26 Dec 2023
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    • They are confused about what science says about form, but so is everybody else I guess.
    • Something prophetic, it hit the zeitgeist of hyperobjects etc.
    • You cannot be at home in this world (as a consequence of the scientific worldview). The cheerlessness of the movie (Antarctica, and general human surliness).
      • A hostile, inhuman environment (universe)
    • Speculation on the nature of The Thing -- not a real creature, just frantic will or patterning, after Schopenhauer. "A teleology with no purpose" well duh.
      • This seems confused to me, they don't quite have the idea down. Or maybe they are just more horrified than I am, since I live in digital capitalism.
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      • So I'm listening to the episode but also puttering with chores and not paying full attention; around 23:00 Phil says something like "The Thing was waiting around to find its people", meaning the film needed time to find its audience, but I it applies equally to the creature or non-creature itself, biding its time in Antartica, which is how I heard it.
      • The treatment of The Thing as a kind of avatar of mindless replication was interesting. I happen to think this is an accurate picture of the universe, Richard Dawkins and Schopenhauer are basically right, but it is disturbing. It brought to mind another disturbing film, Vivarium (2019) , which also treats the subsumption of the human by inhuman replicators.