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from Technic and Magic
  • It reminds me of Blake's Urizen, who symbolized the relentless rationalizing part of the human mind. Or Ginsberg's Moloch, a later incarnation of possibly the same spirit.
from AI risk ≡ capitalism
  • To the point where SlateStarCodex had a whole post sneering at it. He seems to miss what I think is the real point, which is not that capitalism is more dangerous than AI, or the inverse. It's that AI (especially in its current form) is made in the image of capitalist rationality; it is in some respects a fever dream of capitalist rationality. The same things that are wrong with capitalism are wrong with rationalism and rationalist AI, because they are themselves aspects of some more general tendency.
from Your Reason and Blake's System
  • In this tiny volume, Ginseberg analyzes Blake's Urizen, an avatar of certain qualities of mind
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15 Jun 2021 03:14 - 01 Jan 2022 07:48

    • Was trying to get at some major Wrongness that is the root of the smaller-scale wrongness manifested in capitalism, rationalism, and rationalist AI. They seem very closely linked and wrong in the same sort of ways. I don't think this is a super-deep insight or anything, because it's actually kind of obvious, but nevertheless I think there's some value in trying to see just how they are connected and if there is some concept that underlies them all, a unified theory of something I can't quite name yet.
    • But it isn't Mind as such, more like the aspect of the mind that is narrowly goal-seeking. A stupid form of smartness. What Gregory Bateson was talking about in Conscious Purpose vs Nature
      • Which I misremembered as Conscious Purpose Considered Harmful, which is what the computer science equivalent would be titled.
      , although I don't think there's anything exactly unnatural about it.
    • Maybe it's also behind whiteness, colonialism, and the kind of modernist oversimplification described in Seeing Like a State.
    • The meta-problem with all of these, another thing they have in common, is that they are an integral part of our lives and our thoughts. We can call out their faults, but we can't easily escape them.