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from Acid Horizon/David Bentley Hart, We Are Not Software
  • Mind/body dualism is the root of all philosophical confusion. Hart has the classical version of this disease; computation was supposed to gloriously overcome it but kind of got lost along the way. I don't have any great tricks for seeing past it, except to note if you overemphasize one to the neglect of the other, you are probably doing something wrong. Eliminative materialists and radical idealists are equally wrong in this way. See also dumbbell theory or the section on teleology in Weird Studies/Tarot/Wheel of Fortune.

dumbbell theory

30 Oct 2021 02:15 - 22 Feb 2023 10:55
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    • Accordingly, it seems to me that there is something wrong with most dumbbell distinctions: those divisions appear to be so simple and clear that they seem to be all that you need—and that satisfaction tempts you to stop. Yet most of the novel ideas in this book came from finding that two parts are rarely enough—and eventually my rule became: when thinking about psychology, one never should start with less than three hypotheses!
    • Why do people find it so hard to classify things into more than two kinds? Could this be because our languages don’t come with verbs for speaking about trividing things? We all are good at ‘comparing’ pairs of things, and making lists of their differences—but few of us ever develop good ways to talk or to think about trifferences—that is, about relationships among triplets of things. Could this be because our brains don’t come equipped with adequate, built-in techniques for this?
    • ...we'll need to being with some way or ways to divide an entire mind into parts–-and our everyday folk-psychology abounds with ideas about dividing the fhucntions of minds into pairs like these:
      • Conscious vs. Unconscious
      • Premeditated vs. Impulsive
      • Deliberate vs. Spontaneous
      • Intentional vs. Involuntary
      • Cognitive vs. Subcognitive
    • Discussion
      • To rephrase Minsky's insight: we are really good at creating dichotomies, possibly because our brains have innate machinery for doing comparisons of two things. This leads us to reify the two sides of the dichotomy and ignore more complex structure. This might be fine for folk psychology, or for humanistic psychology (where setting up contrasts and comparisons is something of an art form), but is inadequate to reverse-engineering or designing a working mind.
    • Also
      • "It must have a 'natural' cause" "It must have a 'supernatural' cause." Let these two asses be set to grind corn.
        • — Frater Perdurabo (Aleister Crowley), The Book of Lies, quoted in Illuminatus!.

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