defeated

19 Dec 2023 12:20 - 27 Dec 2023 11:03
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    • Man is not made for defeat, a man can be destroyed but not defeated.
      • -- Hemingway, The Old Man and the Sea
    • I have a similar line stuck in my head
      for a long time I could not remember where it was from, but eventually remembered – its from William Carlos Williams introduction to Howl).
      • Everyone in this life is defeated but a man, if he be a man, is not defeated.
    • What does this mean? That giving up is equivalent to losing your manhood, castration? I think I prefer the Fugs hippie take. We are all defeated and have to invent ways to live in that condition. (I think YMCYL speaks to this).
    • Ah found the real quote
      • “Everyone in this life is defeated but a man, if he be a man, is not defeated.”