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from Collected thoughts about Israel/Gaza
  • I seem to am expected to have opinions on the present conflict between Israel and Palestinians. I do of course, but not very interesting ones – basically the same view as most vaguely leftist Jews who aren't hardcore anti-Zionists (like Jewish Voice for Peace ) – we deplore the horrific violence from both sides, deplore the occupation and denial of Palestinian rights, but do not want Israel to disappear. Some kind of peaceful solution that respects the rights of both peoples is obviously necessary and the only way to resolve the situation. A two-state solution, which sounds so simple, so obviously the only right answer, nd also fucking impossible. Given that it is impossible, the only practical action one can do is to work for peace, by supporting actual binational peace efforts like Peace Now (JVP I don't think is actually interested in peace) or Standing Together.
from 2023 Year End Review/Part 2

Jewish Voice for Peace

13 Nov 2023 - 01 Sep 2025
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    • Hm, in 2010 they said (in email)
      • **(1) JVP IS NEITHER ANTI-ISRAEL NOR ANTI-ZIONIST** We do not hold Zionism as a litmus test for membership. Some of our members are Zionists, some are anti-Zionists, and some are non-Zionists. We believe you can define yourself in any of these ways as long as you support an end to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank -- including East Jerusalem -- and Gaza, and you advocate for human rights, which naturally apply equally to Israelis and Palestinians.
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      • Peace Now seems more oriented towards actual peace
        • >Recognizing that both peoples, Israelis and Palestinians, living here have the right to security and self-determination, thus requires setting the goal of a two-state solution, without further settlement expansion in the West Bank and absorbing outposts that take Palestinian land and drain our military, which can ensure real security. We must establish this as our goal and vision and create opportunities and pathways to achieve it.